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Lonewolf
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 11/06/2009 : 15:52:37
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I like it, and I'm a little surprised that there seems to be any confusion over how it works ... it's pretty simple.
They've left some elements open to interpretation because that's necessary in order that they still maintain a little 'creative control' over some elements of the booking without having to be entirely statistic obsessed.
Most pointedly this is because being in the 6 doesn't DEFINITELY guarantee you a title shot. It just gives you the right to challenge for one. Your 'stroke' (for want of a better word) and the chances of getting that title shot are too a degree based on your ranking.
This means if a plucky young contender like Kenny Omega makes it to 6 Aries can still find ways to duck him ... making him wrestle against Rhett to further earn that shot for instance (at the same time offering Rhett the chance to take a spot in the rankings and possibly even drop Omega out.
Maybe even a guy at Number Three will be able to challenge Aries, but Aries will be able to pick a stipulation for the match that keeps things in his favour.
In the meantime (as others have pointed out) the undercard is suddenly more meaningful as wrestlers either try to get INTO the rankings, advance UP the rankings or hang onto their tenuous grip on the rankings (if it's say a mid card heel). Again, as some else pointed out, ROH can put those 'competitive matches' back on that were starting to look so pointless (Claudio/ Jay is a prime example) and have them mean something again.
This is really the first thing to get me excited about ROH in some time ... and for the 'Top Fivers' that were just a tiny bit disappointed ... don't be, I think we proved a point here whether they admit it or not; You don't need a mid card title, when you find a unique way to make EVERY match mean something anyway.
ROH might just have found their new hook.
I'd LOVE to know whos idea it was. |
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memoomahmo
United Kingdom
1753 Posts |
Posted - 11/06/2009 : 17:01:53
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Originally posted by kwjr86
- An unranked wrestler that defeats a “Pick 6” Contender assumes that wrestler’s spot, and everyone lower slides down one rank. The lower a wrestler is ranked, the more they have to lose.
I guess this is one of those things where we will have to wait and see how it pans out, but this caught my eye. It would seem its possible to be on a long lossing streak, beat the number 1 pick and become number 1 contender?
Not sure if thats good or not, potentialy more exciting but obviously less logical.
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CheerUpEmoKid
USA
2127 Posts |
Posted - 11/06/2009 : 17:36:31
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Originally posted by memoomahmo
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Originally posted by kwjr86
- An unranked wrestler that defeats a “Pick 6” Contender assumes that wrestler’s spot, and everyone lower slides down one rank. The lower a wrestler is ranked, the more they have to lose.
I guess this is one of those things where we will have to wait and see how it pans out, but this caught my eye. It would seem its possible to be on a long lossing streak, beat the number 1 pick and become number 1 contender?
Not sure if thats good or not, potentialy more exciting but obviously less logical.
Well theoretically if a guy was on a losing streak, they probably wouldn't put him in a "Pick 6" match. |
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kaz
USA
2106 Posts |
Posted - 11/06/2009 : 17:36:34
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| I hope that Cary Silkin comes to the ring to present each winner with a big $2,500 check, kinda like what they do in Japan when they win a big tournament. That'd be a cool little visual. I'd be funny if Jay asks Cary if he can cash his check immediately so he and Mark can hit the bar/stripclub after the show lol |
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SxECanadianFanSxE
Canada
260 Posts |
Posted - 11/06/2009 : 17:51:12
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I think this is a great idea even if it does sort of telegraph the upcoming title matches. (No way Aries loses his belt before this thing even gets started)
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memoomahmo
United Kingdom
1753 Posts |
Posted - 11/06/2009 : 17:53:43
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Originally posted by CheerUpEmoKid
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Originally posted by memoomahmo
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Originally posted by kwjr86
- An unranked wrestler that defeats a “Pick 6” Contender assumes that wrestler’s spot, and everyone lower slides down one rank. The lower a wrestler is ranked, the more they have to lose.
I guess this is one of those things where we will have to wait and see how it pans out, but this caught my eye. It would seem its possible to be on a long lossing streak, beat the number 1 pick and become number 1 contender?
Not sure if thats good or not, potentialy more exciting but obviously less logical.
Well theoretically if a guy was on a losing streak, they probably wouldn't put him in a "Pick 6" match.
I'm guessing once your in the top 6 all your matches are "pick 6" matches- so they'd have to be a lot of limiting of potential matches if these guys are only gonna face others of a simalar standing. Ofcourse this is all specualtion and obviously they could easily avoided the route of a rank outsider beating a high pick if they wanted to. |
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Shawn
USA
2367 Posts |
Posted - 11/06/2009 : 22:23:59
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Originally posted by memoomahmo
Ofcourse this is all specualtion and obviously they could easily avoided the route of a rank outsider beating a high pick if they wanted to.
That's a benefit of this stuff being pre-determined ;) |
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Dog
Swaziland
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Posted - 11/09/2009 : 10:52:44
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Originally posted by Shawn
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Originally posted by memoomahmo
Ofcourse this is all specualtion and obviously they could easily avoided the route of a rank outsider beating a high pick if they wanted to.
That's a benefit of this stuff being pre-determined ;)
Say hello to your new #3, Katsuhiko Nakajima. |
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TheCivilianExile
USA
288 Posts |
Posted - 11/09/2009 : 13:46:51
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| What happens if Tyler (#2) loses to Claudio (#6) this weekend? Do they just change spots? This should be added to the rules in the stickied thread, as well. |
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JakBauer
Cuba
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Posted - 11/09/2009 : 13:50:36
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Originally posted by TheCivilianExile
What happens if Tyler (#2) loses to Claudio (#6) this weekend? Do they just change spots? This should be added to the rules in the stickied thread, as well.
I believe that Claudio jumps to 2, and Tyler drops down 1 spot to 3.
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Aedroth666
Canada
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Posted - 11/09/2009 : 13:52:41
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Originally posted by TheCivilianExile
What happens if Tyler (#2) loses to Claudio (#6) this weekend? Do they just change spots? This should be added to the rules in the stickied thread, as well.
As i understand Claudio would take #2 Spot. Tyler drops to #3 and #3, 4 & 5 all goes down 1 spot... is that right ? |
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TheCivilianExile
USA
288 Posts |
Posted - 11/09/2009 : 14:02:51
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Originally posted by TheCivilianExile
What happens if Tyler (#2) loses to Claudio (#6) this weekend? Do they just change spots? This should be added to the rules in the stickied thread, as well.
My question's been answered by a new rule in the stickied thread. You two above me were correct. |
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Dog
Swaziland
3189 Posts |
Posted - 11/09/2009 : 14:54:54
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I have one more suggestion/plea for clarification on the rules:
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- Wrestlers securing victories in “Pick 6” matchups earn a match bonus.
Is that referring to the $2,500, or whatever? If so, can we put the word "monetary" in there, to avoid confusion? If not, what kind of a bonus are we talking about? |
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RoaringElbow
USA
1729 Posts |
Posted - 11/09/2009 : 16:52:01
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| so they challenge for the title and are unsuccessful...do they drop off the rankings, causing everyone else to move up and they insert someone else as #6? Hows that work? |
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Chatterguy
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Posted - 11/09/2009 : 18:53:13
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Originally posted by RoaringElbow
so they challenge for the title and are unsuccessful...do they drop off the rankings, causing everyone else to move up and they insert someone else as #6? Hows that work?
I wanna say they'd move down all the way to number 6, no matter what number they were, but that may not be correct. |
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Thoughts on the Pick 6 Series?
